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原來係咁 :馬騮掩眼: 係D筆形同部件設計得好「特殊」，就好似口字右下角要穿出，同個立字一點一撇須觸上下橫，搞到教科書同報紙用開用咗三十幾年嘅字體（即係蒙納宋同華康儷宋）都變咗「唔符合香港標準」 @_@ chanhenryfaihang 19:43, 22 April 2015

聽起係好麻煩（；´д｀） umbreon126 2015年4月23日(木) 11:44

u97cb-g

Hello, sorry to interrupt, I saw you have reverted the design to

u97cb-g, but you mentioned that "@7 is closer to the original G source shape". However, it seems that we are looking at different version of CJK Unified Ideograph Code-charts? As I remember I had redesigned that glyph while overlaying the editor over the code-chart (Unicode Version 7.0) myself. --chanhenryfaihang 14:25, 22 April 2015

The ヰ on the bottom seemed a bit wide :/ (and I'm also referencing Unicode 7.0) umbreon126 2015年4月22日(水) 14:31 (although I should have looked a bit closer at the vertical bar of ヰ)

stretch function

Hello, I would like to know how the stretch function works, but I cannot read Japanese and Google Translate is not very helpful. Could you mind to explain to me? For example, what does the number 136:0 and 0:-80:0 in "99:136:0:61:0:196:200:u20094-07-var-001:0:-80:0" stand for? Thank you in advance! chanhenryfaihang 14:10, 20 April 2015

I'm still not confident that I understand it fully but I'll try （´∀｀；） (i am also very bad at explaining things)
-sandbox:xx:xx:xx corresponds to the "ストレッチ境界" numbers on sandbox's talk page. 99:xx:yy:- controls how much effect the stretch has.

ストレッチ境界:xxx,yyy(foo)
xxx and yyy control from which point on the x/y axis stretch affects a glyph
foo is a direction (U, D, L, R) (up/down/left/right) or two directions
On u529b-02, the "stretch point"(?) is at 95,100, and R means that in the Glyph Editor, +1 compresses everything to the right of (95,100) to the right (and as a result the tail of 力 becomes longer)
On u529b, 100,60(D) leads to everything below (100,60) being compressed downwards when +1 is pressed in the Glyph Editor
Sometimes two direction instructions are used in enclosure glyphs like -05

If a glyph doesn't have stretch set and I don't want to edit the talk page, I look up what I want in Special:Search (for example, I need 140,100), choose a glyph and adjust it in the Glyph Editor, and then copy the instructions ("99:214:0:0:0:200:200:u4e45-var-001:0:40:0" becomes "99:214:0:0:0:200:200:sandbox:0:40:0") （　´∀｀）

I tried figuring out how to directly adjust the numbers once, but I got nowhere; then I realized that I could do this

sandbox:0:0:0 is equal to ストレッチ境界:100,100(foo) when adjusting 99:xx:yy

or something like that (if I missed something don't hesitate to tell me) umbreon126 2015年4月20日(月) 14:35

I see, makes much more sense now to me! Thank you! chanhenryfaihang 15:33, 20 April 2015

u9f9c-h

Re: the H-glyph in Unicode chart for Big-5 characters (those marked HB1-xxx, HB2-xxxx) is not actually from Hong Kong. Due to certain issues in including H-source, the HB1-xxxx and HB2-xxxx have used the Taiwan glyph erroneously, which does not follow the HK guideline/HK standard. If you inspect carefully, you can find the HK glyph and Taiwan Glyph are completely exact copies (same coordinates, same positioning).

The proper regional glyph for HB1-xxxx and HB2-xxxx is scheduled to be ready this year. Currently only H0-xxxx is following Hong Kong standard. Not sure if the H-glyph should use the proper glyph as outlined in the industry guideline or the existing erroneous glyph? chanhenryfaihang

As I understand it, the -h suffix is for the H glyph in the charts. If it is true that the current Unicode glyphs are erroneous, then perhaps it is best to discuss the issue with 이용자:kamichi or at GlyphWiki:井戸端. umbreon126 2015年2月4日(水) 16:18

weibo-eateateat weibo-buybuybuy

These two "joke" characters are widely spread on Chinese social network weibo.com. i did add them to this wiki, and i thought it's not so improper since there are characters of gundam and heavy rain etc.

Why did you delete them?

Some screenshots of notable origins are here: http://imgur.com/j6TjS1Z

Please use the prefix "sosaku-" for not a real Chinese charatcter. "sosaku-" means "joke" (not exactly the same meanings). So "sosaku-weibo-eateateat", "sosaku-weibo-buybuybuy" are the better names. --kamichi 2015年2月17日(火) 20:09

Thanks for explaining. I have moved them to sosaku-xxx. farter 2015年2月18日(水) 01:07

Glyph shape for u5df1-t

The glyph shape for the taiwanese regional glyph

u5df1-t should have the second stroke protrude from the first stroke, e.g.

u5df1-t@3. This is required by the MOE glyph guideline and also reflected in the Unicode Charts. Ditto for

u5df1-h.chanhenryfaihang 02:52, 2 April 2015

Please see the message I left on your talk page. umbreon126 2015年4月2日(木) 02:53

Which kind of parts should be used for "IDS類推字形"?

In the group:古壮字一覧, for example, is it reasonable to use

u8fb6 for character which includes this part instead of

u8fb6-g？And I can't understand why some characters are put in "电子方块壮字(SAWN外字)の字形" and some are put in "IDS類推字形" with G variants. I wonder if my editing on

sawn-f0543 and

u2ff1-u98ce-u5fd8 is right. Thank you! --keepout2010 2015年4月13日(月) 14:38

Creating a new glyph at -var- or -itaiji- is encouraged over replacing the old one. I am not familiar with how the Sawndip pages are structured. umbreon126 2015年4月13日(月) 14:59

For unencoded characters, e.g. グループ:古壮字一覧-UCS未収録分, those listed under "电子方块壮字 (SAWN外字)の字形", please follow the 字形 available at http://gdzhdb.l10n-support.com/zha.index.html, which should be the same as G-variant. Otherwise, "IDS類推字形" should follow the virtual J-shape. "Gソースの字形" is usually left out, and I think there is no naming scheme yet.

For encoded characters, e.g. グループ:古壮字一覧-URO収録分 the J-shape should be in the first column, and the G-shape, if available, should be put under Gソースの字形. The IDS類推字形 should be blank.

Please note that some of the lines in the encoded characters/unencoded characters may be incorrect, i.e. one glyph may contain extra components. In such a case, it is better to look up the original sources and correct them.

If you find any blanked glyph inside the unencoded glyph, and in the History section you can find the corresponding codepoint, I think it is better to move them to the appropriate list, e.g. グループ:古壮字一覧-URO収録分, グループ:古壮字一覧-ExtB収録分

Above --chanhenryfaihang 15:52, 13 April 2015